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A God That Needed to be Changed!

The Unchangeability of a God Who Needed to be Changed!

By Jalal Abualrub (www.islamlife.com)

 

Christians know very well they do not have scriptural proof to their creed.  They also do not have authoritarian explanation on the Gospel or the horrific number of texts they added to their Word of God over the centuries.  They bring proof to their creed that is not proof itself, but needs to be explained by many other proofs to complete the picture.  Each one of these proofs also needs to be proven by many other proofs that may seem to support the original proof which itself needed to be explained in light of other proofs they collected.  The dizzying key to know here is how one translates whatever, especially since Christians do not have a single sentence from their Gospel in its original form.  So editing it is!

After, even before collecting the proofs, Gospel enthusiasts start the game of explaining, without evidence or authority from God, the texts they picked.  They also bicker and dispute bitterly with each other without end on what means whatever. 

Have you ever wondered why individual Christians who preach the Gospel have ministries of their own?  This is because partly, they bicker with just about every other Evangelical about almost everything Gospel-y, and partly because each one of them has his or her own interpretation on the Gospel that could even be inspired.

Here is proof how in the absence of respect to their Gospel and the lack of inspired interpretation to their Word of God, individual Evangelists come up with their own absurd ideas to explain their scriptural texts. 

Here is another point I was going to debate Sam Shamoun on.  I tell you, this man is weird any way his writings and views are examined.  He belongs to a breed of Christians who invent ideas in their religion as they go.  The absurdity is clear; the innovation is tremendous; and the offense to Allah is very substantial, {And they (Jews, Christians and pagans) say: ‘Allâh has begotten a son (children or offspring).’ Glory be to Him (Exalted is He above all that they associate with Him). Nay, to Him belongs all that is in the heavens and on earth, and all surrender with obedience (in worship) to Him. The Originator of the heavens and the earth. When He decrees a matter, He only says to it: “Be!” — and it is.} (2:116-117)


Sam Shamoun wrote:
God's unchangeability … is referring to God's essence, his attributes, his purpose, his decrees … The Lord Jesus is God's eternal Word who became flesh, who became a real human being … Scriptures also teach that Christ is fully God in nature, having all the essential attributes of Deity … Jesus didn't relinquish his Deity … to become man, but retained his divine nature since he can never cease being God … At Christ's Incarnation, there wasn't a subtraction of his Deity, but an addition of humanity.


Jalal Abualrub wrote:
Did Prophets Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, or Jesus ever utter such words?  This argument truly supports the idea that God changes in various ways.  This argument has no basis in the Scriptures.  Shamoun says that “unchangeability … is referring to God's essence, his attributes, his purpose, his decrees”.  He then says that Jesus became flesh, became a real human being.  What does become entail? 


The
Encarta World English Dictionary, N. American Edition, gives this definition for become: “to change or develop into something.


For Jesus, whom Shamoun describes as being fully God in nature, to
become a human is to change his essence, his attributes, his purpose, and his decrees. 

Shamoun says that Jesus never ceased being God, yet, Jesus became a man, thus changing in essence and in ‘God-ness’. 

God was not a human then developed into a human, thus changing in attributes, so the story goes.  Now he needed to eat, sleep, and relieve the call of nature, all of which God stands in no need of. 

God’s purpose changed as a split between the Father and the son had to happen so that the son, but not God, can die while God does not die.  If Father and son did not split, God himself would have died at the hands of spitting Jews, who spat on the Christian god as the Gospel falsely reports.  The son, who according to Shamoun is fully God, whatever that means, had to die on the cross to save mankind from sin.  But, this is a new purpose for God that needed God to develop into a human being. 

As for the decrees, Jesus certainly changed because according to the Bible, he was made under the law, while God is the law giver.  

As for humanity being an addition to Jesus’ deity not a subtraction, this is even worse in addition to it NOT being supported by Scriptures. 


The
Encarta World English Dictionary, N. American Edition, gives this definition for add: “…to give something a particular quality or more of a particular quality.” 


This means that Jesus, fully God as Shamoun claims, received an
added quality he did not have before, thus changing his nature to become a real human being.  Whether add or subtract is the word to use here, this truly implies change from a full God to a full God plus/minus human.

The possibilities are staggering regarding how Christians can and do explain their religion.  Editing of the Bible is alive and well, or sick if you ar not a Christian who looks at this absurdity and then gets amazed how little respect these people have for God and for their own holy books.  God, who does not change, did not only change, but also needed to be changed when he was a baby. 

Whether this seems very exciting or very depressing depends on if you are filled with the Christian Holy Ghost, who does not exist, or simply filled with amazement at how people change their Word of God to conform to their ideas instead of changing their ideas according to the true Word of God.

Jalal Abualrub

www.islamlife.com

Comments
Hadji on April 03 2008 14:43:47
Alsalam alaykum,

This statement is the strangest I've ever heard a Christian say: "At Christ's Incarnation, there wasn't a subtraction of his Deity, but an addition of humanity."

It is contradictory since not matter how you slice it, an addition of exclusive human traits unto God will cause a lack of perfection. (e.g. hunger, sleepiness)

Jazak Allah khair for the informative post.
islam life on April 03 2008 15:27:10
as-salamu alaikum warahmatullah
wait till you hear what he says about the difference between jesus the human and jesus the devine...if you think this is funny, read that one coming soon inshaallah...
these people mock the Creator with this rubbish...
as-salamu alaikum warahmatullah
umm- Samatar on April 03 2008 18:33:02
As-salamu alaikum,

Subhaana Allaah! how weird is their argument. may Allah bless you and be with you as you defend our Deen Insha'llaah
As-salaamu alaikum
rasheed gonzales on April 05 2008 13:51:57
as-Salam 'alaikum wa rahmatullah,

May Allah reward you for your efforts, brother Jalal.
mansubZERO on April 11 2008 14:04:58
you can imagine that the spiritual chrisltian father wears a glove that is meat in essence.jesus is the meat puppet on the hand of the spiritual father.is the spiritual part interchangeble with the meat part?
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