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 Trinity or Octagonity?
How many Gods Do Christians Have?
By Jalal Abualrub (www.islamlife.com)
Christianity is very confusing. Christians admit that Christianity is a mystery. Christians are even more confusing than Christianity. The Old Testament and the New Testament both state that God is one, “I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God … Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any” (Isaiah 44:6 & 8); “There is but one God, the Father” (1 Corinthians 8:6). But, when Christians read ‘One’ they see ‘Three.’ Most of mankind sees ‘One’ when they read ‘One.’ But Christians see ‘Three’ when they read ‘One’. They also invoke the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost, but only see ‘One’ in this ‘Trinity’! May be this is why Sam Shamoun gives this kind of title to this kind of article, ‘The Incomprehensible Nature of God and his Son’. Jalal Abualrub suggests changing the title to, ‘The Incomprehensible Nature of Christianity and its Trinity.’
This is part of what I was going to debate Sam Shamoun on. Since the debate will not take place between us, I will post this to expose this man’s utter confusion in his own religion.
Jalal Abualrub wrote: “Shamoun wrote on Psalm 110:1: ‘Christians believe that Jesus is David’s Lord since he is the Christ. And since Yahweh is David’s Lord, Jesus must therefore be Yahweh God.’
Here is Psalm 110:1, ‘The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.’ So, Jalal says, the Lord spoke to himself and said, ‘My-self, sit at my right hand until I make my enemies a footstool for my feet.’ Shamoun wrote, ‘We do agree that the Psalmist had two distinct and different Persons in view.’
We [mankind] agree [that the psalmist sees two different persons] Jesus and God! Shamoun admits that many say that, ‘The Hebrew text disproves such a notion … The words in Hebrew which the above version translates LORD and Lord are actually Yahweh and Adoni, two different words with two obviously different meanings (or so the argument goes).’
Jalal says: This is a very good argument, isn’t it? How can this text prove two distinct persons, ‘Yahweh’ and ‘Adoni (or Adown)’, and also prove that Jesus (Adoni) is actually God (Yahweh), and consequently, God is actually One God: God, Jesus, Adoni, Christ, the (missing) Holy Ghost, and Yahweh? Psalm 110:1 addresses two distinct, different persons, as Shamoun agrees, ‘We do agree that the Psalmist had two distinct and different Persons in view?’
However, Shamoun contradicts what he agrees is the truth, ‘Just because the Psalmist used two different terms it doesn’t necessarily follow that he had two beings in mind who were of completely different essences.’ Shamoun also narrates from others that, ‘The word Adoni is never once used for God in the Hebrew Bible.’ Therefore, how would this make Adoni Jesus and Yahweh and the Christ and the Holy Ghost and the one and only true God? Shamoun says, ‘Just because Adoni is used elsewhere for human beings or angels doesn’t mean that David didn’t use it in reference to God.’ As an example, Shamoun says, ‘The word Adoni is used for the Angel of Yahweh in Judges 6:13.’
Here is Judges 6:13, ‘And Gideon said … Oh my Lord, if the LORD be with us, why then is all this befallen us? and where be all his miracles which our fathers told us of, saying, Did not the LORD bring us up from Egypt? but now the LORD hath forsaken us, and delivered us into the hands of the Midianites.’
Shamoun also says that Adoni, used for the Angel of Yahweh in Judges 6:13, clearly isn’t a mere creature but a manifestation of God himself. If this is true, then the text would go like this, ‘Oh my Lord, if you be with us, why then is all this befallen us … and where be all your miracles which our fathers told us of … but now you have forsaken us.’ And what about all these complains of promises undelivered?
Why would anyone use this as proof that Adoni is God or that the angel in Judges 6:13 is actually God?’” Why? Because they know they believe in multiple gods, Polytheism Incarnate.
Now, instead of one God, we end up with eight different gods that do different things and experience different things: God, Jesus, Adoni, Christ, the (missing) Holy Ghost, Yahweh, the Father, the son. All these gods are still the one and only God.
Who knows how many more gods Christians can come up with? The possibilities are staggering! This is very exciting!
Jalal Abualrub |
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on April 03 2008 18:34:45
As-salaamu Alaikum,
Expose their lies and rubish, Insha'llaah more will see the real Deen.
as-salaamualaikum |
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